Subject: Re: programming languages as a core topic
From: Andrei Klimov (klimov@keldysh.ru)
Date: Tue Feb 06 2001 - 20:17:02 MSK
Добрый день!
Форвардирую два письма из списка рассылки EAPLS --
European Association for Programming Languages and Systems,
http://www.cwi.nl/~paulk/eapls/index.html
Авторы протестуют по поводу фактического исключения
темы "языки программирования" из основной программы
по computer science, предлагаемой ACM и IEEE.
Это может показаться "шизухой", но -- увы! --
так оно и есть: всего 6 часов!
Для быстрого ознакомления достаточно прочитать
письмо-протест, которое предлагают Matthias Felleisen
и его коллеги, а также посмотреть одну страницу --
стр. 15 документа "Volume II draft"
http://www.acm.org/sigcse/cc2001/cs-volume.pdf
с таблицей, содержащей программу.
Можно подумать, что это нас не касается:
дескать, в России мы "без американской подсказки"
сможем преподавать на достаточной уровне
и языки программирования, и метавычисления, которые
требуют и воспитывают глубокое понимание языков.
Но мы живем не в вакууме...
Всего наилучшего,
Андрей.
----- Original Message -----
From: Matthias Felleisen
To: EAPLS@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 19:38
Subject: programming languages as a core topic
Dear Colleagues --
ACM's and IEEE's joint task on curriculum development has released its
"ironman draft" proposal for a new core curriculum in computer science. The
draft allocates six hours to the area of programming languages, relegating
it to third-class status. I have written a letter of protest and ask for
your support. Please visit my Web site where I have posted the letter and
where you can find some additional information on the topic:
http://www.cs.rice.edu/~matthias/cc2001.html
Regards -- Matthias Felleisen
----- Original Message -----
From: Kim
To: EAPLS@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 11:04
Subject: Re: programming languages as a core topic
Colleagues:
I am happy to see Matthias' attempt to draft support for programming
languages in Curriculum 2001. The main curriculum committee, after
numerous urgings on my part, set up a Programming Languages Knowledge
Units Focus Group (KFG). Members of the group were Kim Bruce (PL KFG
chair, Williams College), Benjamin Goldberg (New York University), Chris
Haynes (Indiana University), Gary Leavens (Iowa State University), John
Mitchell (Stanford University), and Joseph Hummel (University of
Illinois at Chicago).
On very short notice, we developed a preliminary set of recommendations
for programming languages "knowledge units". Over our loud complaints,
the committee cut these recommendations to roughly those currently in
the curriculum draft. In fact, we only found out about these cuts when
the full committee released the strawman version of the curriculum recommendations.
At that point we attempted to rally support from the community by
publishing an article in the April, 2000, SIGPLAN Notices. That
article, which includes many more details, can be found on-line at
http://www.cs.williams.edu/~kim/Curric2001/PLKFG.html
Unfortunately we got little response from the community from those
efforts, and very few changes were made by the curriculum committee to
the programming languages material. While I believe it may still be
possible to influence the committee at the margins, the committee is
unlikely to make major changes at this late date. I hope the community
can find a more effective way of making the case earlier in the process
in the future.
Kim
-- Kim B. Bruce Department of Computer Science Williams College
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